You have to be specific: we are talking about the Ryzen 6000U obviously, but since the information also concerns the desktop versions by name, it is necessary to point out. The upper slide (the lower one curiously has data represented in a different way) perfectly shows what we saw in that presentation and where it set the alarms to the community and the interrogation in the head.
How can an APU of the same architecture as its predecessor perform at least one 70% higher and even exceed it by a 130%? As always, the answer is in the details, and the differences in TDP were more than obvious.
The problem is that the Ryzen 5800U has a different value than the new 6800U, specifically 15 watts versus 28 watts, which results in a much higher frequency escalation because the energy GAP allows this new Ryzen 6000 APU to scale much better.
Why hasn’t AMD limited the consumption of the 6800U? Because it compares the two stock APUs, and although it is not fair to validate the improvements as such, it is fair to show the performance of both and their differences despite the fact that one almost doubles the TDP of the other. Trap? Users have shown it and AMD has responded.
Performance, TPD and limits
Robert Hallock, director of marketing at AMD has come to the fore to explain (or at least try) the point of view of his company. The aforementioned affirms that it is not a different context (we have already explained it above), where in addition the architecture has been improved with more than 50 optimizations, so in reality it is a full-fledged Zen 3+ (speculation on our part of the nomenclature ).
What Hallock tries to explain is that although the TDP goes up to 28 watts it does not affect the temperature, noise and system parameters of any notebook compared to the 5800U. In other words, the Ryzen 7 6800U performs much more without giving off more heat and without the notebooks producing more noise.
Admittedly this is an improvement as such, but what would this new Ryzen 7 6800U do at 15 watts like its predecessor? Possibly they would be really close in performance, so the improvement part of raising frequencies in Boost (+300 MHz), but especially in Base (+800 MHz), consuming more electricity nonetheless, although without the aforementioned limitations.
What about the Ryzen 6000 APUs for desktop?
David McAfee, AMD Vice President and Chief Commercial Officer, Customer Channels left some pretty interesting comments on these APUs. And is that the focus of AMD will be for AM5 and not for AM4 because they will only use DDR5 memory, that is, they do not copy what was done with Intel with double BMI for both types of memory and they play the jump directly to your new socket.
There would be no major problem in this, since we are just under 6 months to see all this, but there are rumors of a possible delay as happened with Intel and Alder Lake, since those of Pat Gelsinger did not extend the presentation date and they have obtained is a null DDR5 stock or unsustainable speculative prices for said memory.
Therefore, if this situation does not improve, it is possible that AMD will delay its APUs a little longer to give way as far as possible to the Ryzen 7000, a flagship product that will compete with Raptor Lake of the blue giant in 2022. ¿Ryzen 6000 APU maybe by the end of this year?